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  1. Boxfan

    Boxfan Well-Known Member

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    When it was first made I thought Haye by KO straight away. But after seeing the SKY show last night I might be changing my mind. He spoke very sensibly and without the usual emotion about how and why he will win. And Im partly convinced. I still think Haye,but Im not so sure now as I was. Also I can see win or lose he will be SKYs best pundit. Good fighter,but a far better talker. The man has kissed the blarney stone. And what he says makes sense.
     
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    One to watch Well-Known Member

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    He he he (bruno laugh)

    Sky and bellew have already convinced the most experienced boxing fan on this site that this fight is competitive.

    What chance do we have vs this incredible propaganda machine.
     
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    One to watch Well-Known Member

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    But seriously,yeah i think he has chance,as he is a decent boxer with a dig.

    I see him as a big underdog mainly due to size (haye is bulky these days) but it could be fun.

    It could also be a tepid 12 round bore.but let's hope not.
     
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    Boxfan Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the heads up about that mate. Im a bit flattered but then you let me down gently. Middle wicket,same Bruno laugh.
     
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    Well full credit to the producers of this show to hooking you in.

    Bellew was on his back from the small CW Makabu. He was iced by a Stevenson at LHW who is mulling moving down to SMW. Haye blew out an iron chinned Chisora.

    Not sure Bellew carries the power or the nouse to do anything to Haye. He'll attempt to run for 6 rounds and nick one or two, hoping stamia will win him the fight in the back end. Or that will be the gameplan at least, he'll get drawn into a blowout when he realizes just how hard Haye hits.

    Im guessing this is be a fun 3 round fight, with the nature of the fight making Hearn breath a sigh of relief after unrelenting shit in the build up. Haye mentions mismatch, calls out AJ/Klit winner. Fights Briggs instead Dec next year.

    Tony retires in the ring and mentions everyone who thought he would get nowhere and his 3 kids. Just as he begins an emotional monologue about @sugar ray sheepskin and his unwavering support, Adam Smith cuts him short "apologies for the stong language, an obviously emotional Tony Bellew there. One of the warriors of the last 10 years during this unprecedented growth in British boxing....."
     
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    Again serious,I gave him no chance at all,but yes,maybe the SKY machine has got me thinking. 5 years younger,same height,reach,and possibly near enough to the same weight. Dunno whether you saw the show last night but he honestly admitted he would be up against it at cruiser with the Haye of the Mormeck fight but more chance now. He's got a point I think. Recently has fought better opponents than has Dave in his comeback. IF and I know its a big if,he beats David he will push like hell for an AJ fight. Only my opinion,but I think either would get stopped. AJ has a harder fight than Tony or David in Wladimir. If he comes through this I can't see anybody beating him.
     
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    I like your post Tom but Im not writing Bellew off altogether. Another thing,I was in a Blackpool pub quite recently and there was an older guy than myself{yes there are a few,and we were watching football chat on TV. Tony was on it and the guy said he thought belle would win. I pumped him to try and find out how much he knew about boxing and it turned out quite a bit. Sounds a bit silly,yes,but it shows me not everybody is going the Haye route. Yes I still thiink Haye but Im saying its not the foregone conclusion we first thought it was.
     
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    :rofl:bbb bomberKO3
     
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    Yor last but one paragraph is interesting. Do you think if Wladimir beat AJ that David would go into a Wladimir fight with any confidence? Yes,he'd probably take it for the money if rumours of financial problems are true,but would he REALLY be confident? Plus I actually think the Briggs who fought on the same bill would give David a few problems for a few rounds. Make him either run or fight. Remarkable guy is Briggs.
     
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    Boxfan Well-Known Member

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    Oh shit mate,you're buying into the SKY hype machine.
     
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    It just Haye is a much better boxer and hits harder. Bellew hanging his left out straight as a range finder, Haye will just sweep round and land at will.

    Like talk of Haye being shot, he has shown himself to be astute and path of least resistance. He knows he is better than Bellew and wouldnt take this fight if it was any risk to the AJ payday.


    If AJ loses, Haye will probably go for a Fury fight I'd say. It would depend on how he lost and if his fanbase desserts him really. Which ever works out as the biggest cash fight. All 3 are probably the 3 biggest names in British boxing now so any fights between them all even with a few L's between them would be massive.

    A trip to Germany to face Klit would most likely be a big payday but can't see it. Briggs really is interesting and the way he comes out the stocks makes things interesting at least. But he's an old man.
     
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    Sheepskin doesn't need sky to convince him a scouser is going to win.
     
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    Boxfan Well-Known Member

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    Ive already sussed that one out OTW. But I can respect it. As you know,I was being facetious,but Im sticking by my guns that this is not necessarily a foregone conclusion. A few imponderables here,and I wouldn't be surprised if Tony gave him a decent scrap for a few rounds.
     
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    I sincerely hope they both think that the other guy can't take their power.

    Then we could see some heavy exchanges.and that's the only way this fight delivers.if it's a boxing match I think it will be a total stinker.
     
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    Ill go along with your first sentence Tom. 2nd paragraph I know thats his logic. Already said if both win I think Haye/AJ will be next. But is he underestimating Bellew? Then you've got the 5 years age difference and the fact we don't REALLY know how much he has left,particularly when and if he gets pushed. Hell be nearly 40 come fight time. Must admit he's looked good so far,albeit against poor opposition. A Briggs fight might have showed us more,despite Briggs being ancient. Incidentally,I know theres not much similarity,but Ive a feeling Tony might bring Shannon over for sparring.
    Last paragraph: Gonna take Tyson a few months to shed the weight,thats if he wants to fight again. Then 2 points against a Haye fight. Peter said they'd never entertain him again. I said against most logic on here that Haye was in for a beating and Im not sure David himself didn't think the same. Plus Tyson will take an easy fight around July/August and probably wouldn't fight again this year then maybe go for AJ or Wilder. And if AJ lost to Wlad? Good as Wlad is he is 40 and already beat virtually at home by Fury. For me that would all but finish AJ,not that I personally see it happening.
     
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    10 rounds...this is con man Haye remember. There's no title involved so I'm sure they will quietly announce this little detail In fight week.In reality it won't matter though as Bellew will be out with the first decent dig
     
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    I see Tony tring to work behind his jab and waiting for an opportunity to land his right. David moving round him and throwng punches from different angles. I know,thats pretty obvious. But I don't see a boring distance fight. At some point they will trade and one will go down. I think that will be Tony. But I could be wrong on both counts.
     
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    Boxfan Well-Known Member

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    Thats a possibility,and if it happens it will put the seal on the AJ Summer fight. But lets say Wladimir wins: Do you see Haye fighting him again or do you see him going for Parker? Wilder? Can Haye win a Wlad reurn with a guy who easily beat him last time and derailed the AJ train? I know you're discounting the possibility but if Tony wins does he get the AJ,or even Wlad fight? As theres no doubt in my mind he'd rather fight either than Usyk.
     
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    I know some on the forum consider it a complete farce. I find it hard to go that far. It is an active cruiserweight belt holder moving up against a relatively small heavyweight who won't have been in a credible fight for almost 5 years by the time he enters the ring.

    Haye hits hard but he looks a lot slower and stiffer nowadays. He's obviously the puncher in the fight but I don't think its a given he will have advantages in speed and reflexes. Tony can box him, frustrate him and I think he has a decent enough dig to hurt David if he can land.

    It's more uncertain than Brook-Golovkin was, I literally couldn't fathom a way Brook would win that fight apart from Golovkin being felled by some kind of congenital heart defect moments before stepping into the ring.
     
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