Oscar Valdez vs Nonito Donaire

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Not sure who to pick. Despite being a huge fan of Valdez I'm still nervous about him fighting veteran champs like Donaire. The dude was still throwing super fast bombs at Magdaleno and Magdaleno had to eat some big shots and control the ring with great movement to get a close decision. In a battle of timing Valdez might be fresher and sharper but Donaire has the experience in those exchanges.
 

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My favorite young fighter against one of my favorite fighters. I have to say I see a changing of the guard here. Valdez is so strong, his body work is so good. I've seen them both live multiple times and Valdez's shots seem to have more thump than Donaire of late.
 
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Not sure who to pick. Despite being a huge fan of Valdez I'm still nervous about him fighting veteran champs like Donaire. The dude was still throwing super fast bombs at Magdaleno and Magdaleno had to eat some big shots and control the ring with great movement to get a close decision. In a battle of timing Valdez might be fresher and sharper but Donaire has the experience in those exchanges.
Fun fact: Magdaleno beat Warren in the amateurs, which is impressive since Warren was always a bully here in the states
 
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That left hook is always a factor.
Valdez taking a big risk, he can lose really bad and drop his stocks for future big fights.
 
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Seems like Bob is feeding Donaire to Valdez. Donaire doesn't belong at 122 let alone 126. Ever since he destroyed Montiel at 118 and moved to 122 he's looked like shit and like his heart just isn't in it. Donaire was never ripped but he also never carried extra weight like he does at 122 and 126. You can see the extra weight around his stomach and love handles and someone who relies so much o his speed and reflexes can't being carrying around extra weight.

So moving back up to 126 and fighting a great young fighter in Valdez? Seems like the end is near for Donaire. It's a shame because he can still beat a lot of great fighters, just not at 126.

All that said if Valdez doesn't have a great chin and gets caught with one too many left hooks it could be lights out.
 
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size and age difference will be a big advantage for Valdez imo.

I think he wins by an attritional KO. I dont think Donaire has the style to 'old man' him.
 
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Seems like Bob is feeding Donaire to Valdez. Donaire doesn't belong at 122 let alone 126. Ever since he destroyed Montiel at 118 and moved to 122 he's looked like shit and like his heart just isn't in it. Donaire was never ripped but he also never carried extra weight like he does at 122 and 126. You can see the extra weight around his stomach and love handles and someone who relies so much o his speed and reflexes can't being carrying around extra weight.

So moving back up to 126 and fighting a great young fighter in Valdez? Seems like the end is near for Donaire. It's a shame because he can still beat a lot of great fighters, just not at 126.

All that said if Valdez doesn't have a great chin and gets caught with one too many left hooks it could be lights out.
Valdez is a big 126lber as well. Has fought up at 130 a few times in stay busy fights, but obviously brings himself back down for fights with rankings or titles on the line.
 

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Donaire on facebook:

I have heard about Valdez being offered as my next fight mid March at 126lbs. While I am grateful for the opportunity given to me by Top Rank and humbled they would give me the chance to fight for another title shot, I also believe I would be redoing the same mistake I did when I initially moved up to 126 in 2014. 126 at first to me was a reason not to have to cut weight. But what I soon learned the hard way was most of the 126 fighters walk near 140 fight night. I have been walking around 132/133 most days and I'm not even in camp.

Knowing my mistake before and acknowledging I wasn't a solid muscle 126, I believe it's in my best interest to take a tune up 126 fight in May (BC March is only 2 months away and too soon to gradually build the correct muscle weight) and if comfortable with the muscle weight, fight Valdez in the fall. And once I fight and gain muscle properly at 126, Im not going to come back to 122 to fight anybody. If that is not possible, 122 is still comfortable for me to make and I'm positive Top Rank has an array of options for me to fight if Magdaleno so chooses not to give me the rematch for whatever his reason.

I have to remember coming all the way from 112, I have built more muscle to move up in weight. My body from 112 was small and as I moved up I built a more muscular frame. But huge thanks to my team, manager, family, and fans who were honest with me telling me I need to build my body correctly. The fighter in me would take the fight even at 130. And when I think crazy thoughts like that, it's a blessing to know I have those in my corner to tell me how to do my weight gain properly this time.
 
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It's probably in Nonito's best interest not to fight him, but I'm not going to act like Valdez is a beast. He's got obvious power, but he's also got glaring flaws that will catch up to him when his power is nullified against more top tier opponents.
 
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Nonito is at this point when he can't make 122 anymore without draining too much and becomes a soft tube at 126.
i see him close to retirement.
 

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More from FB:

My team has come up with the best plan to have my weight gain appropriate for my move to 126.

I'm looking at 122lbs fight in March but to walk in the ring possibly around 134/135 which is going to mean I build good muscle but a little harder to cut.

In July I'll do a tune up fight at 126lbs and walk into the ring at 136/137.

By the fall fight with Valdez I should be able to be a solid 138 come fight night if this gradual build is correct. Just waiting on Top Rank to present me with opponents at 122lbs for March and I'll update you soon!