Me on the heavy bag II

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  1. bballchump11

    bballchump11 Well-Known Member

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    Aight, I recorded myself again and corrected a few things. I was more active this time around so I should have more things for you to critique. Here's my last thread for whoever missed it http://checkhookboxing.com/showthread.php?40256-Me-on-the-heavy-bag

    [video=youtube;Yr4KPghyrNg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr4KPghyrNg[/video]
     
  2. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo King of the Beige
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    Everything looks good. Tight straight movement, good pivoting while stepping, good footwork while circling to the right. Combos are excellent. Form is great. Good inside defense & posture. I think the only thing I would suggest is bringing the right hand a bit up more and avoiding the bow and arrow. I could see that maybe you like to palm it open while throwing the left to catch return fire but if so I'd do it a bit higher. You're not that long/tall boxing wise so I'd prefer and recommend it flat against your cheekbone on-the-phone style. I'd also try to incorporate upper body movement and defense. Throw, mime a block, throw, then duck out or step back but while dipping your head. Bob side to side every once in a while. Your speed makes you offensively formidable but I feel like if a guy thought he could hurt you, he'd simply time a hook and throw with you with the confidence that your head will be in the same place. You like the low-left hand Ward stance that emphasizes balance so it's not necessary that you go all Tyson or Mayweather with the upper body movement but changing levels and bending the knees can add a great deal to the feints and combos you use.
     
  3. Michael

    Michael Well-Known Member

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    You drop your hands too much, I know its only the heavy bag but it's still an exercise that can get you into bad habits. Everything else looks good.
     
  4. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold New Member

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    You do a lot of things very well, but you do one thing that makes your life harder than it needs to be. Just about every time you step with your jab, you step forward with your left foot, but don't move your right foot up as well. Watch the video and don't look at anything but your right foot. Many times it is way way behind you.
    Try this- just for 3 minutes a day for a few days. Step forward with your left foot, jab as you step. As you bring your right foot forward, throw a straight right hand. Circle to the left- slide your left foot to the left, jabbing as you do so. Then pivot on your left foot; when your right foot sets, throw a right hand. Make yourself conscious of keeping your right foot under your right foot until you get the feel of it.
    Then go back and hit the bag- being aware of keeping the right foot under your shoulder. Your right hand will feel sharper, you'll get turned on your left hook, and it will clear up those little hiccups of balance/stability you had. You put your hands together well, punch nice. Changing that one thing will make you much more fluid.
     
  5. bballchump11

    bballchump11 Well-Known Member

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    thanks a lot man, I'll implement this ASAP. I have been sorta noticing this before, but didn't know what to do about it. Your advice is very helpful
     
  6. bballchump11

    bballchump11 Well-Known Member

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    Happy Birthday Bogo :hi: and thanks a lot for the advice again. I probably won't be training again until Sunday or Monday, so I'll work on all of this then

    Thanks man, I noticed that too and will work on it. This was the last round
     
  7. JDK

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    Late reply, but just noticed video [MENTION=1722]bballchump11[/MENTION]
    I realize there's this notion that you need to move around, work on distance, footwork, defense/offense, and somehow pretend you have an opponent in front of you while doing bag drills. In this instance, your constant movement and inclusion of jumping in and out of reach puts your punching technique at a disadvantage. Your focus of speed and circling of the bag takes away from proper punching leverage and flow.
    I'd suggest to slow down. Invest time with individual punches until you have your feet do most of the work without them seeming too stressed. This shit can hardly be explained, but it's your foundation that still needs solid time investment. Take your time following through with your body and up your combination punching slowly.
    Break it down to where you're using heavy bags for punching technique (visualize it, have your trainer critizice you), shadow boxing for footwork and distance, and defense/offense while sparring. Bunching everything up while on the heavy bag is not always productive
     
  8. nufc_jay

    nufc_jay CHB Overlord

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    bballchump11 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks a lot for this advice man. I'll try to slow things down a little more like you said
     
  10. igor_otsky

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    if the bag punches back, he would time your punches easily. he would just stick his arms towards you and he might be hitting your face 90% of the time every time you open up like that.

    you got good footwork though. fast hands, like ameer khan. be careful tho, the bag might test your ameer khan cheen.
     
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    *goes back to his post in the 3 people you'd fight thread*





    *removes bball*
     
  12. rocky1

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    I would say 3 of the main things you need to work on based on that footage are.
    1 - More head movement when you're stepping in as it seems a bit static.
    2- Try and throw your head shots a little higher as most of them seem to be around your chest height and I could be wrong but you don't look that tall so could be an issue if you box anyone much taller than you.
    3- Keep the left hand up.

    + Speed was good.
    + The way you were switching between head and body was good.
    + Nice punch variation.
     
  13. Axe Murderer

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl

    Good Shit ROFLMAO.
     
  14. Danny

    Danny Formerly TommyV, resident ESB virgin.

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    Keep your hands up, in combination you're often not retracting your left back enough IMO, there's a few times when you appear to be reaching a bit with the right hand and hyper-extending your rear leg a bit which is gonna see you off balance. Overall nice fluid combination punching though and your lead right is really good, fast and textbook straight down the barrel. :thumbsup
     
  15. One to watch

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    I like this post.im going to attempt to implement it.
     
  16. The Body Snatcher

    The Body Snatcher WBC Interim Iron Champ

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    Good stuff. How many fights you have? Speed and combo punching is good. Your combos make sense and there was some nice tricky ones in there. Sounded like you have good pop in your shots.

    If there was ONE thing I'd work on it's moving your head while you throw combos. You probably look different when you spar, but during that whole round all I could envision is a counter hook just blasting you upside the head while you unload. You throw combos with your head in the same place and sticking straight up. A lot of the faster/taller guys I've seen do this and get away with it, but they have a rough time with guys who pressure them and bomb wild looping shots. Even if you eat the shot with no problem it disrupts your combo and can knock you off balance, which opens you up for a followup.

    I'd say move your head during your combos. You throw a nice straight right, but maybe work on a chopping one that brings your head down and to your left, then whip back up into the hook to the head or body (with your right hand touching your temple). I find if I put my body into my shots what I lose in speed and flash I make up for in being harder to counter and hitting hard. You do a good job adding a defensive maneuver AFTER your combos, but for the time you're throwing you're a sitting duck.

    Second is low hands. It think it's more important to move your head, but if you don't then you have to keep a hand up there to parry with and discourage counters. Watch how Andre Ward jabs; he has a really good habit which you can implement. Every time he jabs (in the training videos I've seen) he visibly RAISES his right hand to the side of his face. It's already about chin level, but he brings it up so it covers that whole side. From there it can block the hook and it's in a perfect spot to move a couple inches and catch the jab. I'm a habitual hand-dropper but drilling this (especially in shadowboxing) really helped me quit that.

    Third, I noticed once or twice you made shoulder/arm contact with the bag and kind of used it. A lot of people will say to avoid this, but I've found it helps. Work your way in, push the bag with your shoulder and/or forearm, and treat it just like you would an opponent on the inside. Push the bag, keep moving your head off center, use your front leg to trap the opponent, work the head and body, jump to an angle, rip another combo, and then jab/pivot off and reset. It's what happens in a fight anyway so why not simulate? And I know you like Mayweather so you can find a hundred different things to drill on the inside. I like to push the bag with my shoulder until it's at a 45-degree angle and then work it with combos/pushing to keep it from swinging back until I decide to pivot out. Sounds dumb but it's actually kind of difficult and it works for me.

    Last thing: Analyze your own strengths and weaknesses like you would an opponent if you saw them on the bag. Look at yourself and think about what you'd try to do to beat you. What weapons would you need to neutralize, and what weaknesses would you exploit? You'll improve leaps and bounds if you do that consistently.
     

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