Mayweather - Doghouse rules sparring

Deckard

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I watched a video of sparring at the Mayweather Boxing Club and these guys go really hard, they spar as if it's a real fight, throw as hard and as fast as they would as if it was a real fight, these two guys sparred for 31 mins, sometimes they spar nonstop till the other quits, it's reminisicent of some of the old gym wars you hear about from Philadelphia gyms or Kronk gym. But is this type of sparring ill advised, I had heard that generally boxing gyms are moving away from this ultra hard sparring and towards a lighter style in recent years, primarily to prolong a fighters career and that sparring that hard is just unnecessary, and sparring should be focused more towards working on technique and movement.


What are your thoughts on the severity of sparring?

(I can't find the video about the sparring but floyd was recently pulled up infront of the commission about it, some british guy against hasim rahman's kids. Here's a great article about some of the Kronk's gym wars http://ucnlive.com/kronk-gym-wars-let-beatings-begin/ )
 
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You don't spar like that.

If you're responsible for young kids, and you have them do that, then you don't belong in that environment.
Some idiots claim this kind of sparring builds champions. It probably actually builds brain damage and discourages guys. You don't spar for 31 minutes - without break - when a 12 round fight is 36 minutes.

Besides having endurance and stamina is only one facet of boxing. Some guys - Kirkland, Pascal - get by with power and meh stamina. Guess what? They've had lucrative careers and are still fighting. They didn't need the brain damage incurred over 31 minute sparring sessions. Although Kirkland was probably abused by Anne Wolf at some point
 
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Sweethome_Bama

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Different strokes for different folks.
I can see how it can be abused, but if you have a careful eye and know what to look for, I can see how it can be beneficial as well.
 
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The guys that spar know what they are getting themselves into so no reason to bitch about it. Its not like floyd forces them to do it. If they dont want to they dont have to. they can also quit whenever they want.
 

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i wonder if thats why TMT fighters are always getting KTFO. like they go into fights concussed and what not
 
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Honestly, if those boxers think that there gonna go to TMT gym and promotions and think its gonna be about anything other then mayweather they are delusional man. You just a pawn in his life whatever the fuck he feels like doing or wants to do in that moment.. u think thats gonna be beneficial for you? Just cus hes the best ?
 

JeffJoiner

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We sparred pretty damn hard in my old gym, but never for 31 minutes straight or until one guy quits. At best you end up with two drained fighters who won't be able to accomplish anything for a few days. At worst, you get a fighter into the mindset of quitting.
 

PivotPunch

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Some idiots claim this kind of sparring builds champions. It probably actually builds brain damage and discourages guys. You don't spar for 31 minutes - without break - when a 12 round fight is 36 minutes.

Besides having endurance and stamina is only one facet of boxing. Some guys - Kirkland, Pascal - get by with power and meh stamina. Guess what? They've had lucrative careers and are still fighting. They didn't need the brain damage incurred over 31 minute sparring sessions. Although Kirkland was probably abused by Anne Wolf at some point
Kirkland has killer stamina he has one of the rarest combinations of power and stamina in boxing today even if his defnce and his chin (at least early on) aren't up to that level.

Pascal gets mostly by with athleticism and he also has a really good chin so he has incredible physical gifts beside stamina and most fighters that explosive have bad stamina (compared to other elite fighters)

Kirkland also spars brutally hard and has taken insane amounts of punishment in and outside the gym
 
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If I'm being brutal, I can see the merits of it as a one-off - testing whether these guys have any quit in them. It's not really something you need to do over and over again as the damage it does will outweigh any benefits.

Even from a conditioning perspective, you could even argue its counter productive for boxers who rely on intensity. Fighting 36 minutes consecutively you're going to take your foot of the gas far more than you would fighting 12x3s.
 
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Taking miles off the clock on talented young fighters. Completely foolish way of sparring imho.

Hard spars are fine but that's not doing any good imo.