1. nuclear

    nuclear Well-Known Member

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    why is he either inactive or fighting soft touches?




    because it really looks like he could beat any of the top HWs, especially Wilder. Hes all wrong for Wilder it seems. whats his problem? :conf
     
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    tawetrent Well-Known Member

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    It's crazy how slow he looks on that looking back, that man Tyson would've ruined him.
     
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    He will smash everyone this year
     
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    Vano-irons Well-Known Member

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    All I see if Wilder taking that power
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  5. A.C.S

    A.C.S Well-Known Member

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    I watched Haye's come back fights again, he looks so slow compared to before, I think thats why he went for Bellew instead of Parker, he only wants the Joshua fight a big money fight that he will try and win by landing one big punch, hes going to fight nobodies until it happens
     
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    Is he slow compared to the other heavyweights though ?
     
  7. One to watch

    One to watch Well-Known Member

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    Can't see the slowness myself.

    He is heavier,very powerful heavyweight now and has always been an accurate and spiteful puncher.

    He is a danger to any heavyweight in the world.
     
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    A.C.S Well-Known Member

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    Compared to Wilder, Parker and Joshua maybe, he looked good against the first guy but in the second one Haye looked so slow, the guy just kept diving to the floor though, him choosing Bellew over Parker makes me think he knows hes not got too much left
     
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    more like risk reward I reckon.

    The Bellew fight sells much better and makes him more money. It's gets him back in with Sky Box Office and shows them he can be relied upon after letting them down with Fury and Charr.

    While a WBO belt would be good for negotiations maybe, I'm not sure it would add anything to a fight with Joshua. That would sell just as well if AJ beats Klit and decides to drop all the belts.
     
  10. BoxSharp

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    I agree. Maybe he is a bit slower but he was that fast that he is probably still the fastest man in the division. He will make short work of Bellew and I can see him beating any of the champions on his day. Still has a lot to give just a shame he has the mentality to get the easy pay days rather than prove it at the minute.
     
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    After he puts Bellew away I think he will start shouting from the rooftops for the Joshua fight.

    Whether he gets it is a different thing altogether.

    I highly doubt Eddie would let it happen but Haye boxing Dillyan Whyte would be a very good idea.

    If he smashed Whyte in 2/3 rounds all the casuals would be right up his backside again.
     
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  12. Flea Man

    Flea Man 'Nak Muay Sakon: The Boxers of Thailand 1946-1996'

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    A very overrated fighter and has been for years.

    Most of his career--including his cruiserweight run--is smoke and mirrors and elevated by hyperbole from British fans who want to feel like they've got a special fighter.

    He has a punchers chance against most of the heavyweights around today though, he's fast and accurate when he actually lets his hands go. Sloppy finisher though.
     
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    A.C.S Well-Known Member

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    The problem is what does he do after Bellew? If he got the WBO title he would be guaranteed either AJ/Wilder or even Povetkin in Russia or something, beating Bellew gets him nowhere at HW
     
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    I think the problem with him is that these days he's more like a celebrity that happens to box. I've got no real issue with the De Mori fight as it was his first in a few years and he had a bad injury but the second bloke shouldn't have been anywhere near a ring with Haye. I could see him beating pretty much every heavyweight not named Klitschko. He's gone for the biggest exposure and best money in fighting Bellew and it's a fight I've no doubt in my mind he'll win. I think he can finish it practically whenever he wants. There's other big fights out there for Haye that will bring him more prestige that he really has to take once the Bellew thing is over.
     
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    He has a few options after Bellew. I think he's going to be looking for the Joshua/Wlad winner. Wilder is a mouth watering fight and he's mandatory for the WBO.
     
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    Not a legitimate heavyweight as seen when he fought a legitimate heavyweight in Klitshcko.

    He did beat that massive Valuev - but he was very slow and poor champion - and Haye just basically jogged away from him all night.

    Lucky he twice pulled out of the Fury fight or once again he would have had a rude awakening against a legitimate heavyeight.

    I think his best win at heavyweight was John Ruiz and after a trademark fast start he ran a bit flat and out of ideas there in the middle rounds.

    Has got older and slower and more inactive - still probaly got good power - but vunerable against the top boys of the division.
     
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    Haye-wilder would be a sexy fight (no homo)
     
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    He lost his mandatory now Hughie Fury is mandatory, plus why would AJ or Wilder fight him when he brings nothing to the table, ive heard Wilder mention Parker a few times recently, I think AJ fights Wlad then Ortiz (if he wins), Wilder fights Parker then Wilder vs AJ is a huge fight

    Haye is too high risk/low reward without a belt
     
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    I'll elaborate when I've got more time but I'm extremely suspicious both of Haye's motives for fighting and of his training methods for this comeback. I don't normally like throwing those kind of accusations around lightly but there are too many signs for me.
     
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    It would be a good fight but I think if AJ beats Wlad and he beats Bellew that one will happen in 2017. The headline for the video was,I think,Haye smashes Wilder but from the bit I saw that could have gone either way. Id like to see Haye/Wilder then the winner to fight the winner of AJ/Wlad. Would Haye take it if Wlad won and he managed to beat Wilder. The most unlikely scenario IMO
     

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