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Discussion in 'British and Irish Boxing' started by Wig, Jan 9, 2017.
Simple question. Vote and comment. Cheers.
GGG - Brook.
GGG v Brook
Bellew has a punchers chance (To a limited extent). And as pointed out below, the best opponent Haye has faced in the last four years was the divorce lawyers, so we don't know how good he is
And if Khan could somehow avoid being sparked then it was possible he would be ahead on points come the end of 12 rounds.
I saw no way Brook could win.
Dammit. Meant brook ggg but hit haye bellend by accident
Khan could theoretically box to a points decision.
There are unknown variables with Haye. First competitve fight in five years, and his gas tank blew in that. Haye has had one meaningful win in seven years.
Nice one lads keep the votes and the comments coming
I'm not decided on Haye vs Bellew, Bellew is at least a live opponent compared to Hayes last two who looked like a light breeze would knock them over, Haye's not faced a live opponent since Chisora 4 and half years ago.
Difficult to pick between GGG Brook & Bellew Haye.
I couldn't make a case for either Bellew or Brook winning
It's a really tough pick.
Khan was always gonna get hit at some point cos he can't avoid it for 12 rounds (and it would deffo have to be for 12 rounds as he does not have the power to stop Canelo) and with his punch resistance he was always gonna get sparked against a bigger guy.
Brook was not only stepping up straight from 147 to 160, but he was doing it to face a guy who is technically superior to him too. Khan at least had better hand speed than Canelo but Brook had nothing over GGG. Brook has better punch resistance than Khan but a) if Carson Jones can have you in trouble, you're fucked against GGG and b) GGG is a superior fighter to Canelo.
How do you pick between the two? If you're pushing me off the fence I'd say the Khan fight was more of a mismatch, but there's nothing in it.
Bellew/Haye is another mismatch and I believe Bellew will get sparked quicker than Khan or Brook did, but it's less of a mismatch than those two fights just because he does have more of a puncher's chance than Khan or Brook did, and Haye has been so inactive and fought very poor opposition since his comeback. Still, you have a former light heavyweight who was hurt multiple times at that weight and also stopped now fighting a guy who punches much, much harder than anyone Bellew has faced. Haye smashed the durable Chisora who most heavyweights couldn't dent. Then there's Haye's punch resistance which isn't as poor as is made out. He took some clean shots off Wlad and was fine. Wlad is the biggest puncher in boxing. Then you have Haye's superior speed and reflexes. Yeah with him being so inactive he's not gonna be vintage Haye but is he gonna be so over the hill that Bellew has anything more than a puncher's chance? I very much doubt it.
Three really shit fights where the smaller guy is gonna lose but isn't gonna lose much in terms of reputation because they already have an excuse/legit good reason for losing in that they're smaller men. The whole thing was comedy. Only in boxing could such a cluster fuck of mismatches come to fruition like that. How does it even happen? Did the convos go something like this?
Khan: Hey Canelo mate, how's it going?
Canelo: Not bad Amir, I don't really fancy facing that cunt Golovkin
Khan: I know the feeling mate, I don't want any part of Brook either, but I'm gonna look like a bitch if I don't fight him. Eddie's been calling me out over it and all sorts.
Canelo: I've got an idea mate. How about we face each other instead? That way both of us win. I won't have to take another L on my record, and even though I'll spark you out you can at least tell people you were winning the fight before you got knocked out and it was against a much bigger man. Trust me mate, it's better for your rep to get sparked by a big Mexican warrior like myself than that camp prick with a lisp from Yorkshire.
Khan: That's a great idea Canelo mate, let's do this.
Brook: Gennady pal, that bitch Khan has ducked me to fight Canelo. What a cunt.
GGG: I know Kell, but that Canelo is a ducking pussy too. Them two are made for each other. How about we fuck them off and just fight each other instead?
Brook: Yeah sound mate. Sounds good.
Only in boxing man...
Amir and Kell should just get a room together instead of using GGG and Canelo to make each other jealous.
This is a bit like asking what's the worst way to die, cancer, aids or MS
Tough one between the 2
It's definitely not khan
I voted Haye
After 10 mins on the toilet can I change it to brook
What happened in there that changed your mind?
Khan vs canelo. People saying 'if he could avoid the big shot' etc are mad if they think Khan will ever be able to do that against anyone decent, he's far to wreckless and undisciplined to avoid shots off a guy like that for 12 rounds. It was only ever going to end with a brutal ko. Brook vs ggg was a massive mismatch and equally as easy to predict but he didn't get brutally finished like Khan and landed some eye catching shots if I remember correctly. As for Bellew vs haye, as much as I think haye is going to smash him to bits, there are still question marks over Haye with his recent inactivity etc and they are more equally matched physically that the other guys. Bellew also does potentially have a punchers chance in this but I really really can't see it. If they fought 1000 times if expect Haye to win 999 of them.
Went Khan. Khan wasn't even that big at light welter.
Brook at least is huge at WW. Bellew and Haye have at least both been world level cruisers.
Yeah + I think it's fair to say that Canelo was more of a proven commodity than GGG. I mean, Brook was at least the most skillful guy GGG had fought. Canelo had obviously already beaten much better fighters than Khan. On the other hand, Canelo had previously shown weaknesses to boxers with good movement…
Pretty difficult to pick the worst out of these three shitfests. It's actually irritating to think that instead we could have seen Brook-Khan, Canelo-GGG, Bellew get knocked out by Breidis, & Haye-Parker.
Its Brook v 3G, both in retrospect and at the time. Brook never stood a chance and it showed in the fight.
There was always a way Khan could win and that was proven by him winning 4 rounds.
Bellew v Haye will be a mismatch but there are some unknowns so its hard to judge and compare to the other two.
The only reason Khan won rounds was because canelo wasn't bothered by his shots in the slightest and was quite happy to take a few of his slappy powder puff combos in search of one big shot. At the end of the day he got his timing down in a few rounds and finished him with ease.
With all due respect, I disagree. Khan boxed beautifully with the exception of taking one too many bodyshots.
Few = 6 rounds?